SUMMARY

One aspect of purpose and calling is being willing to live it out with freedom and joy. But what do you do if your purpose is highly visible and involves frequent accolades and applause? In this episode, author and speaker Megan Fate Marshman sits down with Jason Jaggard to share about how private disciplines help balance her public call. Together they explore the importance of slowing down, the importance of grounding your identity in Christ and how emotions like anger and anxiety can be signposts for us as leaders. If you’ve ever wondered how to stay rooted while maintaining a public ministry, this is a great episode to check out!

IN THIS EPISODE

• When did Megan first discover that she was a leader?

• Why do church leaders sometimes struggle to get people to use their leadership gifts for the good of the church?

• What is the relationship between Megan’s public speaking and the private, “off-platform” aspects of her leadership?

• What are some of Megan’s daily disciplines?

• As she travels and speaks, what are some issues that Megan is seeing and observing in churches?  

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STANDOUTS AND TAKEAWAYS

• So much of inviting people into leadership hinges on how you make the invitation. Getting to know someone, seeing them uniquely and inviting them into something specific is critical.

• Whether or not someone is serving has a significant impact on whether they feel like they belong at a church.

• People don’t need more to do in their lives; they just need to be more intentional about what they are already doing.

• Our souls can’t handle environments where we only ever hear applause.

• Before you share anything on a platform, let it change you first.

• When you are working on a sermon, it’s a great strength to bring your questions to the text.

• Use your daily life to establish some prayer “triggers” that can serve as reminders to slow down, or to connect with someone, etc.

• Take time daily to peel back the “layers” of your life, and to root your identity in Christ. After that’s done, take the time to consciously put the layers back on.

• Anger and anxiety are not innately sinful; they are signals and doorways that can either pull us backward or remind us to release control.

• Many leaders are missing the opportunity to both give and receive love by staying isolated.

• Ask yourself, “What do you WISH someone would do for you?” Then do that for someone else.

• Many people feel like they are being reminded constantly that they are not as they should be, and their reaction is to just start working harder and harder by themselves. The better solution is to relax and to simply become more open to the work that God has already done.  

LINKS MENTIONED

• Book: Relaxed: Walking with the One Who Is Not Worried about a Thing (Amazon.com)

• Website: Megan’s Website

• Website: Team365

• Website: Global Leadership Summit 2025

• Website: Global Leadership Network

SPONSOR

• This episode sponsored by World Vision.