SUMMARY
What does it truly mean to be resilient? In this episode, GLN President and CEO David Ashcraft interviews top management thinker, organizational psychologist and self-awareness expert Dr. Tasha Eurich. Together they unpack Tasha’s latest book, Shatterproof, and discuss how leaders today—she calls them “stressed-out strivers”—can move beyond mere resilience and learn to thrive in our modern world.
IN THIS EPISODE
0:00 Intro
02:30 Tasha’s path to her work.
06:45 Helping people thrive in the midst of chaos.
08:15 Where did Tasha start her research?
13:45 A basic definition of “stress.”
14:50 How human beings typically respond to stress.
19:35 Is there a difference between stress and chaos?
22:30 What happens when someone hits their resilience ceiling?
28:35 Signs that someone has hit their resilience ceiling.
31:35 Can some people handle more stress than others?
33:30 Where does the idea of “burnout” fit into the discussion of resilience?
37:45 Practical tools that leaders can use to help their teams thrive.
39:45 Is our struggle with stress at work worse today than in the past?
40:15 What it means to “thrive” in the midst of chaos.
46:15 Outro
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STANDOUTS AND TAKEAWAYS
- At the end of the day, every interaction is about making the other person’s life just a little bit better.
- For “stressed out strivers,” chaos and stress come constantly and from all different angles.
- “Resilience” has its time and place, but it cannot be our only coping strategy.
- As humans, the real challenge for us is chronic stress across multiple areas of our lives.
- “Stress” can be any constraint that we are experiencing that we don’t have control over.
- Our bodies react to stress in two ways: fight/flight or freeze/faint.
- It is a myth that the more stress we encounter in life, the stronger we will be.
- Regardless of who they are, all achievers have a “resilient ceiling”: the moment that their resilience resources run out.
- Hitting your resilience ceiling and reacting badly does not mean you’re failure; you are merely experiencing your automatic responses to a world that our bodies were not designed to live in.
- There are three signs that indicate someone has hit their resilience ceiling:
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- They’ve lost their “mojo,” or enthusiasm
- Little things feel big
- Our top tools to navigate stress are failing
- Even though some people can handle more stress than others, everyone has a limit.
- “Burnout” differs from hitting a resilience ceiling in that burnout tends to (a) be more directly associated with work; and (b) happens gradually over time.
- Human beings have three fundamental needs:
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- Confidence/growth
- Choice/agency
- Connection/belonging
- Leaders should ask themselves, “What am I doing to fulfil or frustrate the three basic needs of my people?”
- Becoming “shatterproof” means going beyond “white knuckling” through tough moments to acknowledge our cracks and struggles and use them to point us towards how we can be stronger.
- True strength is not saying, “I’m not breaking.” It’s saying, “I’m breaking, and I’m going to use that to become the best version of myself.”
LINKS MENTIONED
Whitney Putnam
Vice President of Marketing | Global Leadership NetworkDavid Ashcraft
President and CEO | Global Leadership NetworkDr. Tasha Eurich
Principal | The Eurich GroupEp 175: Organizational Psychologist Dr. Tasha Eurich on Moving Beyond Resilience and Becoming “Shatterproof”
TOPICS IN THIS PODCAST
Emotional IntelligenceLeading OthersLeading YourselfResilienceWellnessWhat does it truly mean to be resilient? In this episode, GLN President and CEO David Ashcraft interviews top management thinker, organizational psychologist and self-awareness expert Dr. Tasha Eurich. Together they unpack Tasha’s latest book, Shatterproof, and discuss how leaders today—she calls them “stressed-out strivers”—can move beyond mere resilience and learn to thrive in our modern world.
On This Podcast
Whitney Putnam
Global Leadership Network
Whitney Putnam is the Vice President of Marketing at the Global Leadership Network. She is passionate about men and women working together to expand their influence so that many more people come to know Jesus. As a builder, Whitney cares deeply about building healthy and holistic communities of people, from the team she has the joy of working with at the GLN to those in her neighborhood. She is a well-respected leader and innovator having served as an executive leader at several global non-profits. She’s a mom to three little girls and married to a tall redhead named Michael. They can most often be found dancing in their kitchen and occasionally sprinkling confetti in greeting cards, all while living in Dallas, Texas.
David Ashcraft
Global Leadership Network
David Ashcraft is President and CEO of the Global Leadership Network, as well as President of The Advantage, a leadership collaborative serving pastors in Pennsylvania. As Senior Pastor of LCBC in Pennsylvania for 32 years, he helped grow weekly attendance from 150 people to a combined average of more than 22,000.
Dr. Tasha Eurich
The Eurich Group
Dr. Tasha Eurich is an organizational psychologist, researcher, and New York Times best-selling author. As Principal of The Eurich Group, she uses science to help successful executives achieve dramatic personal and organizational change. Globally recognized as the top self-awareness coach and organizational culture expert, her clients include Google, the NBA, IBM, and the White House Leadership Development Program. Eurich has written two books: Bankable Leadership, which debuted at #8 on The New York Times bestseller list, and Insight, which famed Wharton professor Adam Grant calls one of the three books he recommends most often. Her work has been featured in Harvard Business Review,The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and her TEDx talks have been viewed more than seven million times.
Show Notes
SUMMARY
What does it truly mean to be resilient? In this episode, GLN President and CEO David Ashcraft interviews top management thinker, organizational psychologist and self-awareness expert Dr. Tasha Eurich. Together they unpack Tasha’s latest book, Shatterproof, and discuss how leaders today—she calls them “stressed-out strivers”—can move beyond mere resilience and learn to thrive in our modern world.
IN THIS EPISODE
0:00 Intro
02:30 Tasha’s path to her work.
06:45 Helping people thrive in the midst of chaos.
08:15 Where did Tasha start her research?
13:45 A basic definition of “stress.”
14:50 How human beings typically respond to stress.
19:35 Is there a difference between stress and chaos?
22:30 What happens when someone hits their resilience ceiling?
28:35 Signs that someone has hit their resilience ceiling.
31:35 Can some people handle more stress than others?
33:30 Where does the idea of “burnout” fit into the discussion of resilience?
37:45 Practical tools that leaders can use to help their teams thrive.
39:45 Is our struggle with stress at work worse today than in the past?
40:15 What it means to “thrive” in the midst of chaos.
46:15 Outro
LISTEN
Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
STANDOUTS AND TAKEAWAYS
LINKS MENTIONED
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