Ep 026: Liz Wiseman with Jeff Lockyer
Liz Wiseman and Jeff Lockyer discuss the important leadership skill of empowerment. Going deep into Wiseman’s Multiplier and Diminisher concepts, this conversation focuses on the ways leaders unintentionally diminish those around them. Wiseman calls these leaders the Accidental Diminishers—well-intentioned leaders who may not even realize that they are having a diminishing impact. In this episode, you can learn how to: 1) Identify your Accidental Diminisher tendencies, 2) Deal with a Diminisher boss, 3) Experiment with new strategies to empower your team.
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The Wiseman Group
Liz Wiseman is a researcher and executive advisor who teaches leadership to executives around the world. She is the CEO of the Wiseman Group, a leadership research and development firm headquartered in Silicon Valley, California. Some of her recent clients include Apple, AT&T, Disney, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Nike, Salesforce, Tesla and Twitter. Thinkers50 ranked Wiseman as the top leadership thinker in the world in 2019. She has conducted significant research in the field of leadership and collective intelligence and writes for Harvard Business Review, Fortune and a variety of other business and leadership journals. She is a frequent guest lecturer at BYU and Stanford University and is a former executive at Oracle Corporation, where she worked as the Vice President of Oracle University and as the global leader for Human Resource Development. Her wealth of expertise is found in her best-selling books, including an October 2021 release, Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger and Multiply Your Impact which investigates the most valuable players of the workplaces and explains what makes them so extraordinary.
Southridge Community Church (St. Catharines, Ontario)
Jeff Lockyer is the Lead Pastor of Southridge Community Church, a multi-site movement where each location serves a community need in their part of the Niagara Region. He is passionate about leadership development, serving as the Chair of the Board of Global Leadership Network Canada and co-hosting The Global Leadership Summit's GLS Podcast. A former national team runner, Jeff lives in St. Catharines with his wife Becky and three children.
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Multiplier leaders empower other people. They use their intelligence to activate the intelligence of others. On the opposite extreme, Diminisher leaders drain the intelligence out of people. They believe that their teams will not figure it out without them. In this interview, leadership expert Liz Wiseman and Jeff Lockyer discuss the concepts of Multipliers and Diminishers, as well as a third kind of leader: the Accidental Diminisher. Learn how to increase self-awareness about your own Accidental Diminisher tendencies and increase your skills of empowerment.
- Liz Wiseman grew up in California with a Diminisher father and a Multiplier mother.
- She first conceived the Multiplier concept during her years at Oracle Corporation, where she noticed that not everyone who was really smart created smart people around them.
- Multiplier leaders use their intelligence to activate the intelligence of others.
- Diminisher leaders drain the intelligence out of people.
- An Accidental Diminisher wants to be a good leader, yet they are having a diminishing impact. Sometimes it is easier to draw upon our own capabilities than reach out and draw the best out of others.
- Accidental Diminisher Types:
- Idea Guy: Fount of ideas that squeezes out creativity in their team.
- Always On: Full of energy and exhausts other people.
- Rescuer: Doesn’t like to see people fail so they help—maybe too soon.
- Pace-Setter: Leading by example but may unintentionally create spectators.
- Rapid Responder: Responds quickly—maybe too quickly.
- Optimist: Their positivity may underplay the possibility of failure.
- Protector: Try to keep people out of harm’s way and may over-protect.
- Strategist: Their big visions don’t create space for other people’s visions.
- Perfectionist: Need for perfection may put undue pressure on their team.
- Self-Awareness is the key to overcoming a Diminisher tendency.
- Multipliers assume “people are smart and will figure it out.” Diminishers assume “people aren’t going to figure it out without me.”
- Some Multiplier Experiments:
- Extreme Questions: Shift out of the mode of telling and into the mode of asking. Try going into extreme question mode when things have either gone very well or really wrong.
- Talk Up Your Own Mistakes: If you want to increase innovation and risk taking, talk about your own mistakes.
- When trying a new Multiplier behavior, results may not be immediate. Be patient.
- The best strategy for dealing with a Diminisher boss is to multiply up.
- The hallmark of a Multiplier is intellectual curiosity.
- Liz Wiseman described several Accidental Diminisher types in this podcast (see list above). Which of the profiles resonates with you as your potential tendency?
My Accidental Diminisher Type might be: ________________________________________
- Reflect on the ways you might be unintentionally diminishing your team. What are three unintended consequences that your diminishing behavior might be having on them?
- Identify an “experiment” you could try in the next week to begin to break your Accidental Diminisher habit. Sign up for a free account on the Multipliers website for ideas.
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